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crotty32 11:43 Sat Aug 1
A digital season ticket will be a disaster

I renewed my st but despite me wanting to give money to WHU the grief I get for laying out is unf@@king believable.The hatred of the club to the fans sickens me but I will not let them win.There is meant to be a app next season for entry to the stadium,now my phone will not download ebay so I know that despite the current system working WHU want to make going to support WHU as hard if not impossible as they can.This decision will end in disaster.

Mike Oxsaw 11:47 Sat Aug 1
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Show me somebody who can't tell the difference between "Most" and "All" and I'll show you someone who works in marketing with a Media Studies degree.

RM10 11:50 Sat Aug 1
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As much as I ridicule our owners, I’m not sure they don’t want us there, they want things mostly their way.

Iron Duke 11:51 Sat Aug 1
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Are they not sending out cards anymore? That doesn’t make sense seeing as it was all contactless anyway.

They could give people the option of using the app but the card should still be an option.

Apparently the app will have a photo id so I can only assume the reason is so that you can’t lend your ticket to others.

Nagel 11:53 Sat Aug 1
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Not heard about this before but sounds like a track and trace thing so they know you were there if there's a COVID outbreak at a specific game. Might be enforced by the government rather than the club.

Mike Oxsaw 12:00 Sat Aug 1
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"They" can already track and trace you - how do you think the mobile phone company knows where you are when somebody tries to call you/send you a text - white man's magic?

Nagel 12:01 Sat Aug 1
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They can't trace you if you don't have your phone with you. That's the point, dimwit.

On The Ball 12:20 Sat Aug 1
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Digital tickets are the future of tickets. Makes touting harder, saves money all-round, and is just general 'progression'.

England's games in the Nations League in Portugal were digital last year, as was a game at Wembley afterwards (they were all largely successful). The Euros this year were going to be digital (you could pay £15 I think to get souvenir tickets after the tournament if you're an idiot like me) - it's just the way things are going. I suspect that many Clubs will have taken this chance to move over, and if they haven't they will soon.

There will be workarounds for kids/those still in the noughties.

Sven Roeder 12:21 Sat Aug 1
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This may initially partly down to covid to track people in the ground but you think it’s also the coming thing for all tickets.
Was meant to be in New York in June and we were going to a baseball game and all tickets had to be booked through the MLB app and you would receive the ticket electronically a day or so before the game.

Presume clubs will say this cuts down on ticket touts but will also let them check that people are in their correct seats.

On The Ball 12:23 Sat Aug 1
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Iron Duke 11:51 Sat Aug 1

I can't see them having people checking ID on the turnstiles, but I'm sure you'll still be able to use ticket forwarding through the Club.

These are all things we've realised with England games - tickets for those are not transferrable in any way, whereas WH matches are (through official channels, anyway). This is a problem if we (with England) can't make a game because it's then harder for us to pass on and still get our loyalty point.

On The Ball 12:26 Sat Aug 1
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Sven Roeder 12:21 Sat Aug 1

Not really, I don't think. Digital tickets were a thing last Summer as I said. 'They' can already track people through phones so there'd be no need for this.

And it won't allow them to make sure you're in the right seat any more than a card does now. It will cut down on touting though, which is great.

RichyP 12:31 Sat Aug 1
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Don’t see what the problem is as long as there is a work around for people without smart phones. I do pretty much everything using my phone these days including digital tickets for other things like travel.

Nagel 12:33 Sat Aug 1
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"'They' can already track people through phones so there'd be no need for this."

If the govt wanted to make sure that people had phones with them whenever they went to public events then there would definitely be a need for it. I can well imagine some people preferring to leave their phones at home or use a burner rather than get forcibly quarantined for 2 weeks on the chance they might have contracted COVID.

Sven Roeder 12:45 Sat Aug 1
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How many people have been forcibly quarantined while 50,000 people have been dying?
And your biggest concern is avoiding self isolating if you have or are exposed to covid?

Nagel 12:54 Sat Aug 1
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Not talking about what's happened in the past. These are measures they might want to plan for is all.

There's plenty of people (especially younger ones) who think it's just a bad flu and wouldn't be that bothered by it. Also just because you're in a place with someone who has it doesn't mean you're going to get it, so being forced to isolate for 2 weeks when you probably don't have it wouldn't sit well with some people. I could see people self-isolating for a few days but if they had no symptoms they'd just carry on.

This is all just supposition anyway on what the govt might be thinking about planning to control public events.

Mike Oxsaw 1:35 Sat Aug 1
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Nagel 12:01 Sat Aug 1

Who the fuck goes out without a phone these days? If not the latest model smartphone than a cheap old one that won't piss you off too much if you lose it.

Even if you do it's easy to trigger an alarm if a phone deviates from it's normal activity by, say, staying in the same place at a time it normally moves about and marry that data with information from those who can be traced (to eliminate them) and it's not hard to pinpoint an individual.

Plus, if YOU go phoneless, it's odds-on that at least one of the group you have been associated with refuses to, so, again, focussing on them will find you.

Very difficult to move about undetected almost anywhere in the world these days. If you\\re thinking of asking why the police simply go and round up & prosecute all the criminals if they know where they are, the answer is that society lacks the resources to do so.

Golden Oldie 1:40 Sat Aug 1
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The future is everyone running around with bankrobber masks on using burner phones and everyone on a para trip hiding from the po-po.

"I'd like two tickets please for Legoland sir"
*Holds out £50 note"
"Sorry mate no cash transactions only terrorists use cash, we'll have to alert the police, do not try to leave or start your car we have the authority to shoot you if you do not co-operate"

Bungo 11:43 Sat Aug 1
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Mike Oxsaw 1:35 Sat Aug 1

I have to say, when the lockdown started and my need to be contactable by the office was massively reduced, it was a real pleasure to leave the phone at home when I went out. I can easily see the day when I have a really cheap and cheerful phone, which about 3 family members have the number for.

Some gigs I have been to have been entry by the credit card that you booked the tickets with. I presume this is likely to spread?

Mike Oxsaw 12:03 Sun Aug 2
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Bungo 11:43 Sat Aug 1

The whole world is moving to traceable, no matter what you do. Data on what you do, where you go and who you go/do it with is very valuable so any method to collect it is employed.

You need to be VERY disciplined with a mobile phone. It belongs to YOU, not the rest of the world, so THEY cannot dictate how and when you use it. Mine either goes off outside working hours or is set to voicemail - I choose then whether to act on the call - when I get around to it.

In fact, after marketing pushing "must have" products and services at people, a mobile phone is probably one of the biggest stressors today - if people had the strength to just switch their phone off - or at least ignore it at times of THEIR choosing, I'm sure their lives would improve.

This is coming from somebody who's made a very nice living out of the mobile phone industry; I should be pushing for greater, not less use. I'd go for quality use over quantity if it were up to me, but either way, you have to control your phone, not let it control you.

Bungo 12:12 Sun Aug 2
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Mike Oxsaw 12:03 Sun Aug 2

I quite agree. When it's there, it's very difficult not to check it, especially with all the email/Whatsapp notifications etc enticing you to see what they are. I'm not so worried about being traceable, it's more the freedom not to be contactable at other people's convenience.

I don't think my younger colleagues believe me when I say I put it in a drawer all weekend sometimes.

DaveT 1:04 Sun Aug 2
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Sven,
Likewise for the baseball. Was meant to see Tampa in April and then the Mets next month. You could forward the tickets through the app to someone else. Got the Mets tickets ages ago so assume I could have sold them on.

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